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	<title>Comments on: Universalist prayerbook PeaceBang mentioned</title>
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	<description>Scott Wells on the practice of Christian faith</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you might have seen 1961; it was reprinted oodles of times until 1981. 

Any re-publication would be in the hands of the UUA, since they hold copyright. That&#039;s one of the reasons I&#039;ve shown more interested in even older liturgies; they&#039;re in the public domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you might have seen 1961; it was reprinted oodles of times until 1981. </p>
<p>Any re-publication would be in the hands of the UUA, since they hold copyright. That&#8217;s one of the reasons I&#8217;ve shown more interested in even older liturgies; they&#8217;re in the public domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Butts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Butts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott, yes, part of it is the unfamiliarity, but it also has to do with the gender-specificity for God and so on. It was awkward for me in the sense that the langauge of gender disabled me from being able to be at ease--now that, I realize, sounds new-agey and so on. But it is just how I felt! Hymns of the Spirit is right! I thought I saw 1961, but I guess it was 1937, because it definitely had the services of religion in it! Thanks Scott--hope you are well. Off to check in on E-Bay. I wonder if the UUCF could put it up as a PDF somewhere? Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott, yes, part of it is the unfamiliarity, but it also has to do with the gender-specificity for God and so on. It was awkward for me in the sense that the langauge of gender disabled me from being able to be at ease&#8211;now that, I realize, sounds new-agey and so on. But it is just how I felt! Hymns of the Spirit is right! I thought I saw 1961, but I guess it was 1937, because it definitely had the services of religion in it! Thanks Scott&#8211;hope you are well. Off to check in on E-Bay. I wonder if the UUCF could put it up as a PDF somewhere? Roger</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A note to other readers: I know for a fact the hymnal Roger references -- since Universalist National Memorial Church was my last pastorate -- is the &lt;em&gt;Hymns of the Spirit&lt;/em&gt;, jointly published by the Universalists and Unitarians in 1937. He surely got a later copy, as it was kept in print until 1981.

I wonder Roger, if the awkwardness comes from the unfamiliarity of the Morning Prayer format, which needs to be taught but has few helps in print anywhere. Yes, the language is a bit must, too, but I daresay it holds up better than the liberal liturgical works of the 1960s and 70s.

Y&#039;all out there: get a copy if you can. Ask around at older Unitarian Universalist churches; there may be a box lying about. Or check eBay, but I wouldn&#039;t pay more than $10 for a copy in very good condition. Make sure it has the &quot;Services of Religion&quot; in the front, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A note to other readers: I know for a fact the hymnal Roger references &#8212; since Universalist National Memorial Church was my last pastorate &#8212; is the <em>Hymns of the Spirit</em>, jointly published by the Universalists and Unitarians in 1937. He surely got a later copy, as it was kept in print until 1981.</p>
<p>I wonder Roger, if the awkwardness comes from the unfamiliarity of the Morning Prayer format, which needs to be taught but has few helps in print anywhere. Yes, the language is a bit must, too, but I daresay it holds up better than the liberal liturgical works of the 1960s and 70s.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all out there: get a copy if you can. Ask around at older Unitarian Universalist churches; there may be a box lying about. Or check eBay, but I wouldn&#8217;t pay more than $10 for a copy in very good condition. Make sure it has the &#8220;Services of Religion&#8221; in the front, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Butts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Butts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott, here is what I wrote to Victoria about her funeral scenario.  

Hi Victoria. What an important discussion your funeral has produced. I was in Washington/Fairfax recently and worshiped at Universalist National Memorial Church, a place that I really treasure. They used a hymnal from 1961. It was a tad awkward, I think. But the service was lovely--Lily preached on the Gospel of Judas. The important thing, though, is that I had a dream that Sunday night that the UUA had put red Xs all over the inside cover, to indicate that this was no longer acceptable for UU congregations. I have no particular grievance with the UUA. I like the new hymnal supplement! But it was something about being confronted by our past, and the complexity and nuance of the selections in that hymnal, and finding our current language inadequate to the task. Well, this post has little, I suspect, to do with your funeral scenario. I just thought it an interesting dream.
Yours in Davenport,
Roger Butts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott, here is what I wrote to Victoria about her funeral scenario.  </p>
<p>Hi Victoria. What an important discussion your funeral has produced. I was in Washington/Fairfax recently and worshiped at Universalist National Memorial Church, a place that I really treasure. They used a hymnal from 1961. It was a tad awkward, I think. But the service was lovely&#8211;Lily preached on the Gospel of Judas. The important thing, though, is that I had a dream that Sunday night that the UUA had put red Xs all over the inside cover, to indicate that this was no longer acceptable for UU congregations. I have no particular grievance with the UUA. I like the new hymnal supplement! But it was something about being confronted by our past, and the complexity and nuance of the selections in that hymnal, and finding our current language inadequate to the task. Well, this post has little, I suspect, to do with your funeral scenario. I just thought it an interesting dream.<br />
Yours in Davenport,<br />
Roger Butts</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s where a PDF could lead.</description>
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		<title>By: John Plummer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Plummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As it is now in the public domain, have you thought of doing a reprint (e.g., via lulu.com)?   A printed version would be very handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it is now in the public domain, have you thought of doing a reprint (e.g., via lulu.com)?   A printed version would be very handy.</p>
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