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		<title>By: Scott Wells</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11718</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run WordPress, and some comments need to be authorized. I think your long reply has a word in its that picked it as potiential spam.</description>
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		<title>By: Stentor</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11692</link>
		<dc:creator>Stentor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. Eventually my longer comment did show up. I officially don't understand MT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. Eventually my longer comment did show up. I officially don&#8217;t understand MT.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Tierney-Eliot</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11691</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Tierney-Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't that naming thing a little spooky?  It may be a cultural thing but Mainers love to know the name of their meat...</description>
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		<title>By: Terrance</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11680</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, 16 falls under 10+. :-) Decent veggie meals in Logan Circle? Our favorite was Thai Tanic on 14thSt. I recommend the Pad See Ew Jae.</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Wells</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11679</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, but &lt;a href="http://www.cornerstonefarm.us/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Adam's brother's farm&lt;/a&gt; was one of the things that pushed me over the edge.

Here's the logic. If I was going to be an ethical carnivore, their meat would be &lt;em&gt;exactly&lt;/em&gt; the kind of thing I'd look for. (And we can get it from local farmers at the &lt;a href="http://www.localharvest.org/farmers-markets/M528" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sunday market at Dupont Circle&lt;/a&gt;.) But, like the Tierneys, those farmers are keen to show me pictures of the &lt;em&gt;named&lt;/em&gt; live animals that are now cut up and resting on dry ice.

And that's too real for me. But thanks for keeping it real.

I suppose I can get the free-range eggs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, but <a href="http://www.cornerstonefarm.us/" rel="nofollow">Adam&#8217;s brother&#8217;s farm</a> was one of the things that pushed me over the edge.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the logic. If I was going to be an ethical carnivore, their meat would be <em>exactly</em> the kind of thing I&#8217;d look for. (And we can get it from local farmers at the <a href="http://www.localharvest.org/farmers-markets/M528" rel="nofollow">Sunday market at Dupont Circle</a>.) But, like the Tierneys, those farmers are keen to show me pictures of the <em>named</em> live animals that are now cut up and resting on dry ice.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s too real for me. But thanks for keeping it real.</p>
<p>I suppose I can get the free-range eggs.</p>
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		<title>By: Stentor</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11673</link>
		<dc:creator>Stentor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn it, MT ate my long comment. In summary: my own experience was that dating a vegetarian is a good way to motivate yourself, although I doubt hubby would be too keen on Scott trying that path. Also, the key is to find vegetarian meals that stand on their own, rather than being omnivore meals with the meat replaced with something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn it, MT ate my long comment. In summary: my own experience was that dating a vegetarian is a good way to motivate yourself, although I doubt hubby would be too keen on Scott trying that path. Also, the key is to find vegetarian meals that stand on their own, rather than being omnivore meals with the meat replaced with something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Stentor</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11671</link>
		<dc:creator>Stentor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the strategy I followed isn't really an option for you -- I started dating a vegetarian, and the positive reinforcement of seeing her eating habits coupled with the fear that she'd think less of me if she saw me with a big steak on my plate gave me the motivation I needed. I've since broken up with her, but without taking up meat-eating again, as our three years together gave me time to adopt vegetarianism as part of my own identity. I'm not a strict vegetarian yet -- I call myself a "social carnivore," in that I'll eat meat if someone else offers it to me or I'm at a restaurant without any decent vegetarian options, but I never cook meat for myself and I try to order vegetarian at restaurants when they have it on the menu.

I guess my main advice would be to develop a taste for vegetables. Soy and cheese have their place (though we don't actually need nearly as much protein as your average omnivore eats), but if you rely too much on them, you'll have this constant feeling that you're eating a replacement. But if you get into a vegetable-based cuisine, you'll start to forget about meat rather than having its absence hanging in front of you at every meal. Sometimes my parents will give me some ham, and I don't know what to do with it -- I wind up with vegetarian dishes that have ham grafted onto them.

There are loads of good vegetarian recipes online (I've been using http://vegweb.com/), and going to Indian and Vietnamese restaurants can give you some inspiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the strategy I followed isn&#8217;t really an option for you &#8212; I started dating a vegetarian, and the positive reinforcement of seeing her eating habits coupled with the fear that she&#8217;d think less of me if she saw me with a big steak on my plate gave me the motivation I needed. I&#8217;ve since broken up with her, but without taking up meat-eating again, as our three years together gave me time to adopt vegetarianism as part of my own identity. I&#8217;m not a strict vegetarian yet &#8212; I call myself a &#8220;social carnivore,&#8221; in that I&#8217;ll eat meat if someone else offers it to me or I&#8217;m at a restaurant without any decent vegetarian options, but I never cook meat for myself and I try to order vegetarian at restaurants when they have it on the menu.</p>
<p>I guess my main advice would be to develop a taste for vegetables. Soy and cheese have their place (though we don&#8217;t actually need nearly as much protein as your average omnivore eats), but if you rely too much on them, you&#8217;ll have this constant feeling that you&#8217;re eating a replacement. But if you get into a vegetable-based cuisine, you&#8217;ll start to forget about meat rather than having its absence hanging in front of you at every meal. Sometimes my parents will give me some ham, and I don&#8217;t know what to do with it &#8212; I wind up with vegetarian dishes that have ham grafted onto them.</p>
<p>There are loads of good vegetarian recipes online (I&#8217;ve been using <a href="http://vegweb.com/" rel="nofollow">http://vegweb.com/</a>), and going to Indian and Vietnamese restaurants can give you some inspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11665</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently doing this as well. I have decided that meat simply does not agree with me (I end up feeling bloated and ill after eating it). I have slowly weaned myself off with a number of different salad recipes. It so happens that I love fresh vegetables anyway. Tonight I had feta and olive salad with pita bread. I think that rather than making a rule that "I AM NOT GOING TO EAT MEAT AGAIN" it is a case of slowly adjusting your diet and getting to know some tasty alternatives. I once tried to be a vegetarian before but didn't really have any alternative to meat based meals and so it proved hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently doing this as well. I have decided that meat simply does not agree with me (I end up feeling bloated and ill after eating it). I have slowly weaned myself off with a number of different salad recipes. It so happens that I love fresh vegetables anyway. Tonight I had feta and olive salad with pita bread. I think that rather than making a rule that &#8220;I AM NOT GOING TO EAT MEAT AGAIN&#8221; it is a case of slowly adjusting your diet and getting to know some tasty alternatives. I once tried to be a vegetarian before but didn&#8217;t really have any alternative to meat based meals and so it proved hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Tierney-Eliot</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11664</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Tierney-Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a vegetarian once.  I went cold turkey after completing a stint as a lobster cook in high school.  Nothing like ripping the inards out of little crustaceons (sp?) and stuffing them with breadcrumbs to turn you off!  I have become a "gradual reductionist" of sorts, thanks to the incredibly large numbers of vegetarians I have as friends/relatives.  That, combined with what I like to call "economic vegetarianism" (poverty) has kept my meat consumption low over the years.  Of course, I have a brother who raises mostly-organic cows, pigs and free-range chickens...

I have a question.  Do more people swear off meat for ethical reasons or for health reasons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a vegetarian once.  I went cold turkey after completing a stint as a lobster cook in high school.  Nothing like ripping the inards out of little crustaceons (sp?) and stuffing them with breadcrumbs to turn you off!  I have become a &#8220;gradual reductionist&#8221; of sorts, thanks to the incredibly large numbers of vegetarians I have as friends/relatives.  That, combined with what I like to call &#8220;economic vegetarianism&#8221; (poverty) has kept my meat consumption low over the years.  Of course, I have a brother who raises mostly-organic cows, pigs and free-range chickens&#8230;</p>
<p>I have a question.  Do more people swear off meat for ethical reasons or for health reasons?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wells</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11653</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10+ years, Terrance?  Try 16. (Really. I have photographs.)

I might ask for help, like where in Logan Circle can someone get a decent vegetarian meal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10+ years, Terrance?  Try 16. (Really. I have photographs.)</p>
<p>I might ask for help, like where in Logan Circle can someone get a decent vegetarian meal?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrance</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11651</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm. After 10+ years of knowing Scott (and being a vegetarian), I'm a bit surprised. But you'll get nothing but encouragement from this end. I know you can cook so you'll be  in that department. I can recomment some good cookbooks to start with. My starter cookbooks were "The Moosewood Cookbook" and "The Enchanted Broccoli Forrest." 

As I recall, for me it was a New Years resolution. And I backslid on the very first day. After that, I righted myself, and got back on track. Beyond that point, I went cold-turkey of meat and seafood (which some don't consider meat, but I do). Some folks do it gradually, but it really depends on what's best for you. I just thought gradual change would allow me to put it off for too long. 

For me, it was initially for health reasons, and the payoff was pretty quick in terms of how I felt after a while. I didn't start considering the ethical reasons until about five years ago, and I'm still working on those, and figuring out just how far I can reasonably take it. (Becoming a vegan is the obvious next step, but I haven't taken it yet.) 

Also, I think it's easier now than it was 10 years or more ago, as there are more options in restaurants, people are more accepting of it, and there are just more vegetarians than there used to be. Plus there are a lot of vegetarian products out there, that weren't available when I started. 

Anything I can do to help, you have but to ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm. After 10+ years of knowing Scott (and being a vegetarian), I&#8217;m a bit surprised. But you&#8217;ll get nothing but encouragement from this end. I know you can cook so you&#8217;ll be  in that department. I can recomment some good cookbooks to start with. My starter cookbooks were &#8220;The Moosewood Cookbook&#8221; and &#8220;The Enchanted Broccoli Forrest.&#8221; </p>
<p>As I recall, for me it was a New Years resolution. And I backslid on the very first day. After that, I righted myself, and got back on track. Beyond that point, I went cold-turkey of meat and seafood (which some don&#8217;t consider meat, but I do). Some folks do it gradually, but it really depends on what&#8217;s best for you. I just thought gradual change would allow me to put it off for too long. </p>
<p>For me, it was initially for health reasons, and the payoff was pretty quick in terms of how I felt after a while. I didn&#8217;t start considering the ethical reasons until about five years ago, and I&#8217;m still working on those, and figuring out just how far I can reasonably take it. (Becoming a vegan is the obvious next step, but I haven&#8217;t taken it yet.) </p>
<p>Also, I think it&#8217;s easier now than it was 10 years or more ago, as there are more options in restaurants, people are more accepting of it, and there are just more vegetarians than there used to be. Plus there are a lot of vegetarian products out there, that weren&#8217;t available when I started. </p>
<p>Anything I can do to help, you have but to ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wells</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11628</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever PeaceBang wants . . . PeaceBang gets. And what PeaceBang wants is . . . another slice of ham. And perhaps a glass of the low-alcohol German wine.  I remember that day with overwhelming fondness (even if the pig doesn't.)

The husband and ministry parallel comes from the string of "this is it" calls I've gotten over my life. I've lived a very "zubba, zubba, zubba, ping! Noah!" life. (For those who enjoy old Bill Cosby routines.)

Or put another way, I don't think I'm the one who chose the vegetarianism for me. I tend not to bring this subject up because it makes me sound crazy or fanatical, but it tends to turn out that way. 

Oh, in case y'all think the UU Enforcer is being provocative, well, he is. (You are!) But I suspect Mrs. Enforcer will take care of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever PeaceBang wants . . . PeaceBang gets. And what PeaceBang wants is . . . another slice of ham. And perhaps a glass of the low-alcohol German wine.  I remember that day with overwhelming fondness (even if the pig doesn&#8217;t.)</p>
<p>The husband and ministry parallel comes from the string of &#8220;this is it&#8221; calls I&#8217;ve gotten over my life. I&#8217;ve lived a very &#8220;zubba, zubba, zubba, ping! Noah!&#8221; life. (For those who enjoy old Bill Cosby routines.)</p>
<p>Or put another way, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m the one who chose the vegetarianism for me. I tend not to bring this subject up because it makes me sound crazy or fanatical, but it tends to turn out that way. </p>
<p>Oh, in case y&#8217;all think the UU Enforcer is being provocative, well, he is. (You are!) But I suspect Mrs. Enforcer will take care of him.</p>
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		<title>By: Peacebang</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11627</link>
		<dc:creator>Peacebang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya'll are so crazy and I love you for it.
I don't kiss any pictures of Paul Prud'homme or anything but Scott I MUST ask... how did vegetarianism get you a husband? I thought you and Hubby were major carnivores! I must admit that one of my fondest memories with you is the Christmas Day that found us both exhausted and sitting side by side on old easy chairs, watching "Damn Yankees" and eating slice after slice of a fabulous glazed ham.

oink. oink.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya&#8217;ll are so crazy and I love you for it.<br />
I don&#8217;t kiss any pictures of Paul Prud&#8217;homme or anything but Scott I MUST ask&#8230; how did vegetarianism get you a husband? I thought you and Hubby were major carnivores! I must admit that one of my fondest memories with you is the Christmas Day that found us both exhausted and sitting side by side on old easy chairs, watching &#8220;Damn Yankees&#8221; and eating slice after slice of a fabulous glazed ham.</p>
<p>oink. oink.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Smith</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11626</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes!  What poor grammar in the above post!</description>
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		<title>By: Larry Smith</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11625</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, vegetarianism is great for me!  As I am writing this I'm eating vegetarian haggis with mashed potatoes and peas (Scot's wha' hae!).  It took more discipline than most people would imagine for me to become a vegetarian fifteen years ago.  I came from a family that put meat into everything.  Years ago i was listening to NPR and an agricultural economist was being interviewed.  He said that if everyone on the planet were vegetarian that everyone could potentially eat.  The only answer, beyond that of global politics, to starvation was vegetarianism.  Upon hearing my experience with that radio program years later, Tom Wintle told me that he knew that agricultural economist--he was a member of First Parish, Weston, Mass.  So, my conversion to vegetarianism was directly due to an encounter with a UU Christian.  The Spirit works in mysterious ways. . . 

I did not go vegetarian all of a sudden though.  Experiences with animals, the horrible sanitation of the meat packing industry and the pollution of the seas all added to the arguments for vegetarianism in the long run. It has not been easy but I feel bettter for it. 

When I first went vegetarian I craved meat and the kinds of meals that I had experienced all my life.  Then, I found Linda McCartney's cookbook, "Home Cooking." It's chock full of meat-replacement recipes that made the transition easier.  I have a ritual with that cookbook.  Before I put it away I always kiss the late Mrs. Paul McCartney on the cover (like the Russians do their icons.)  I suppose that I  take that a bit more than most, yet eating food that I know has not been the product of violence is affirms my basic principles.

I would also commend to you "Simply Heavenly!  The Monastery Vegetarian Cookbook" by Abbot George Burke ("1,400 recipes from the Kitchen of Holy Protection Orthodox Monastery.")  In the introduction the Abbot gives his reasoning for vegetarianism as deriving from a translation of the original text of Genesis in the early Christian era, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat" (Genesis 1:29)  Now before everyone starts clamboring about mistranslations and such, I am only conveying this monastic order's explanation for their vegetarianism.  Their seems to be a tradition of vegetarianism and fasting in Orthodox traditions.  Some hold that digestion of meat interferes with mental and spiritual awareness, slowing them down.  

This is quite a long post, hope that it helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, vegetarianism is great for me!  As I am writing this I&#8217;m eating vegetarian haggis with mashed potatoes and peas (Scot&#8217;s wha&#8217; hae!).  It took more discipline than most people would imagine for me to become a vegetarian fifteen years ago.  I came from a family that put meat into everything.  Years ago i was listening to NPR and an agricultural economist was being interviewed.  He said that if everyone on the planet were vegetarian that everyone could potentially eat.  The only answer, beyond that of global politics, to starvation was vegetarianism.  Upon hearing my experience with that radio program years later, Tom Wintle told me that he knew that agricultural economist&#8211;he was a member of First Parish, Weston, Mass.  So, my conversion to vegetarianism was directly due to an encounter with a UU Christian.  The Spirit works in mysterious ways. . . </p>
<p>I did not go vegetarian all of a sudden though.  Experiences with animals, the horrible sanitation of the meat packing industry and the pollution of the seas all added to the arguments for vegetarianism in the long run. It has not been easy but I feel bettter for it. </p>
<p>When I first went vegetarian I craved meat and the kinds of meals that I had experienced all my life.  Then, I found Linda McCartney&#8217;s cookbook, &#8220;Home Cooking.&#8221; It&#8217;s chock full of meat-replacement recipes that made the transition easier.  I have a ritual with that cookbook.  Before I put it away I always kiss the late Mrs. Paul McCartney on the cover (like the Russians do their icons.)  I suppose that I  take that a bit more than most, yet eating food that I know has not been the product of violence is affirms my basic principles.</p>
<p>I would also commend to you &#8220;Simply Heavenly!  The Monastery Vegetarian Cookbook&#8221; by Abbot George Burke (&#8221;1,400 recipes from the Kitchen of Holy Protection Orthodox Monastery.&#8221;)  In the introduction the Abbot gives his reasoning for vegetarianism as deriving from a translation of the original text of Genesis in the early Christian era, &#8220;Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat&#8221; (Genesis 1:29)  Now before everyone starts clamboring about mistranslations and such, I am only conveying this monastic order&#8217;s explanation for their vegetarianism.  Their seems to be a tradition of vegetarianism and fasting in Orthodox traditions.  Some hold that digestion of meat interferes with mental and spiritual awareness, slowing them down.  </p>
<p>This is quite a long post, hope that it helps.</p>
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		<title>By: John Simcox</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11624</link>
		<dc:creator>John Simcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I became a vegetarian in 1973 and a vegan in 1981.  It seems to me that there are many helpful and supportive books in libraries and bookstores for a person considering vegetarianism.  I've found vegetarian groups of great help, off and on, over the years.  There are some helpful things on Keith Akers' website, compassionatespirit.org.  

I embraced universalism much more recently.  Veg and univ are, of course, a perfect combination.

                                                               John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I became a vegetarian in 1973 and a vegan in 1981.  It seems to me that there are many helpful and supportive books in libraries and bookstores for a person considering vegetarianism.  I&#8217;ve found vegetarian groups of great help, off and on, over the years.  There are some helpful things on Keith Akers&#8217; website, compassionatespirit.org.  </p>
<p>I embraced universalism much more recently.  Veg and univ are, of course, a perfect combination.</p>
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		<title>By: Chalicechick</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11623</link>
		<dc:creator>Chalicechick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've noticed recently that I really don't eat red meat any more. I don't know how it happened, but it has.  Cutting out red meat was painless.  Cutting out chicken would be harder but is doable if I really wanted to, but right now I don't.

At the same time, I take an even broader stance than Mrs. Philocrites in that I don't want to show up to anybody's house and say "This is what I eat."  

CC
Ps. The Moosewood cookbook rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed recently that I really don&#8217;t eat red meat any more. I don&#8217;t know how it happened, but it has.  Cutting out red meat was painless.  Cutting out chicken would be harder but is doable if I really wanted to, but right now I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>At the same time, I take an even broader stance than Mrs. Philocrites in that I don&#8217;t want to show up to anybody&#8217;s house and say &#8220;This is what I eat.&#8221;  </p>
<p>CC<br />
Ps. The Moosewood cookbook rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: UUEnforcer</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11622</link>
		<dc:creator>UUEnforcer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh great,a vegetarian.... just like Hitler.</description>
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		<title>By: Philocrites</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11621</link>
		<dc:creator>Philocrites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs Philocrites is a vegetarian with one exception: She eats meat when it's served in a religious setting, such as a meal in a monastery, because she realized the brothers only serve meat at the Tuesday dinner they invite guests to. I thought that was a pretty good exception, and it makes some potentially awkward pastoral situations easier to adjust to. (Food given as an act of hospitality is hard to turn down gracefully.)

I eat meat at lunch, I confess, because I love to go out for lunch, but the Moosewood Cookbooks have given us plenty of really good meals for dinner. A few more years, though, and I suspect Mrs Philocrites's gentle evangelism will have converted me to milk-&#38;-eggs vegetarianism (free-range, of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs Philocrites is a vegetarian with one exception: She eats meat when it&#8217;s served in a religious setting, such as a meal in a monastery, because she realized the brothers only serve meat at the Tuesday dinner they invite guests to. I thought that was a pretty good exception, and it makes some potentially awkward pastoral situations easier to adjust to. (Food given as an act of hospitality is hard to turn down gracefully.)</p>
<p>I eat meat at lunch, I confess, because I love to go out for lunch, but the Moosewood Cookbooks have given us plenty of really good meals for dinner. A few more years, though, and I suspect Mrs Philocrites&#8217;s gentle evangelism will have converted me to milk-&amp;-eggs vegetarianism (free-range, of course).</p>
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		<title>By: Oversoul</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/transitioning-to-vegetarianism/#comment-11620</link>
		<dc:creator>Oversoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a vegetarian for 5 years, having fallen off the wagon last year :(

Having said that, when I felt the same pull you feel now, I just made a decision to limit meat to a few times a week.  In the meantime I found myself enjoying different vegetarian dishes, and finally I made the decision to go meat-free for two weeks.  If over that period I didn’t find myself dying for steak, then I’d make the leap.  In Atlanta we have such wonderful vegetarian restaurants that dining out wasn’t always a hard thing either (anyone who has a chance to check out Café Sunflower http://www.cafesunflower.com/ at either location should do so).

The only reason I reverted back to my evil ways was a real longing for fish and seafood, although I have had other types of meat too.  I am considering being semi-vegetarian with seafood as my only meat indulgence.

As for Ethiopian vegetarian lentil dishes, we have a restaurant here in ATL which serves the best Ethiopian vegetarian food.  I am salivating as I write this…
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a vegetarian for 5 years, having fallen off the wagon last year :(</p>
<p>Having said that, when I felt the same pull you feel now, I just made a decision to limit meat to a few times a week.  In the meantime I found myself enjoying different vegetarian dishes, and finally I made the decision to go meat-free for two weeks.  If over that period I didn’t find myself dying for steak, then I’d make the leap.  In Atlanta we have such wonderful vegetarian restaurants that dining out wasn’t always a hard thing either (anyone who has a chance to check out Café Sunflower <a href="http://www.cafesunflower.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cafesunflower.com/</a> at either location should do so).</p>
<p>The only reason I reverted back to my evil ways was a real longing for fish and seafood, although I have had other types of meat too.  I am considering being semi-vegetarian with seafood as my only meat indulgence.</p>
<p>As for Ethiopian vegetarian lentil dishes, we have a restaurant here in ATL which serves the best Ethiopian vegetarian food.  I am salivating as I write this…</p>
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