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	<title>Comments on: Terms as the United Church of Canada defines them</title>
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	<description>Scott Wells on the practice of Christian faith</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you -- that &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; very helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you &#8212; that <em>is</em> very helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Bott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!

I'm a member of the order of minister in The United Church of Canada and a Manual 'wonk' *grin*. (The Manual is the collection of the bylaws of The UCCan.)

You wrote, "The Session and Stewards closely describe the offices of elder and deacon in Presbyterian use, without giving those lay members elected to those roles those titles or formal status."

Two things I'd like to point out - first, while the Session/Stewards model is the one laid out in the Basis of Union, there are a variety of other models that have evolved and been approved for use - some of those have far more of a connection to The UCCan's Canadian Methodist and Canadian Congregationalist roots. The other point... the term for a member of the Session (or its equivalent) in The UCCan is "Elder" 

(From Sec. 130, The Manual 2007 - Elders. Elders are those persons of the Pastoral Charge or Congregation who are chosen by the Pastoral Charge or Congregation for their wisdom, caring, spiritual discernment, and other gifts of the Spirit, and to whom the responsibility of leadership amongst the whole people is entrusted as appropriate by and within a particular community of faith.)

I hope my comment is helpful!

Peace to you - Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a member of the order of minister in The United Church of Canada and a Manual &#8216;wonk&#8217; <em>grin</em>. (The Manual is the collection of the bylaws of The UCCan.)</p>
<p>You wrote, &#8220;The Session and Stewards closely describe the offices of elder and deacon in Presbyterian use, without giving those lay members elected to those roles those titles or formal status.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two things I&#8217;d like to point out - first, while the Session/Stewards model is the one laid out in the Basis of Union, there are a variety of other models that have evolved and been approved for use - some of those have far more of a connection to The UCCan&#8217;s Canadian Methodist and Canadian Congregationalist roots. The other point&#8230; the term for a member of the Session (or its equivalent) in The UCCan is &#8220;Elder&#8221; </p>
<p>(From Sec. 130, The Manual 2007 - Elders. Elders are those persons of the Pastoral Charge or Congregation who are chosen by the Pastoral Charge or Congregation for their wisdom, caring, spiritual discernment, and other gifts of the Spirit, and to whom the responsibility of leadership amongst the whole people is entrusted as appropriate by and within a particular community of faith.)</p>
<p>I hope my comment is helpful!</p>
<p>Peace to you - Richard</p>
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