Comments on: Poor Unitarians (relatively)

By: Derek

Derek — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:43:24 +0000

I thought Andrew Carnegie’s wife was a Universalist, and a member of Church of the Divine Paternity (now 4th Universalist of New York City).

By: StevenR

StevenR — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:55:50 +0000

It was easy for me, since Ive been reading such nice things about the Pullman family in my Manford’s Monthlies from the 1800s….For some reason Manford makes him seem much nicer than Debs did…..

Let’s not forget that J.P. Morgan has an Uncle (as well as a grandfather) who was an Unitarian minister too….hmm, one of the Uncle’s other nephews married the daughter of Father D. B. Clayton…… (that comment for Scott)

My studies of Universalists in the south generally put them in the middle-upper middle class, various elected officials (from Governors to Sheriffs), and with at least one doctor in every church….

By: Scott Wells

Scott Wells — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:09:30 +0000

@Chris/Philocrites. You are too silly for your own good. George Pullman’s NYT obit — you can download it from the interactive graphic — notes his brother J.M., who was then in NYC, was formerly the editor of the Christian Leader.

By: Philocrites

Philocrites — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:08:17 +0000

PS: Tragically for my future as the idle rich, I am completely unrelated to Sam Walton.

By: Philocrites

Philocrites — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:58:06 +0000

Pullman’s brother was a hymn-writin’, Whitehead-readin’, red-headed blogger from Utah!? I had no idea!

By: Scott Wells

Scott Wells — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:44:51 +0000

@ Ms. T. No guessing mechanism. I think there’s some kind of caching delay. As Hank implied, Pullman’s the Universalist. His brother was a minister and — in essence — one of Chris Walton’s predecessors.

By: James Field

James Field — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:18:08 +0000

Thats funny. I had him wrong.

By: Ms. Theologian

Ms. Theologian — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:10:02 +0000

But now I can see the guesses, so perhaps you just had a setting to keep people from peeking at guesses first. Is that Hank Pierce? If so, Hi Hank. You know me under my real name.

By: Ms. Theologian

Ms. Theologian — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:08:23 +0000

So I’m trying to read who people guessed (I have no guess myself), but the 4 comments that are supposedly here won’t show up (IE7, which I should note I use for work at work’s request).

By: Hank

Hank — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:04:52 +0000

ps. if you look at his obit you can see a picture of the church, his home and my high school, he also built the town it’s library, town hall and the Masonic Lodge building.

By: Hank

Hank — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:00:49 +0000

Well Scott,
It doesn’t happen often but today I am happy to prove you wrong! Mr. Henry Huttleston Rogers (#23) was not only a Unitarian he built the Unitarian Memorial church in Fairhaven, MA, my home town (and my father’s home church.) It makes the Pullman Chapel look like a shoe box, which is saying something.

And of course J.P. Morgan was the grandson of the Rev. John Pierpont of the Hollis St. Church Boston and the 1st Parish in Medford.

For the others, I’m not that well versed with mid-west tycoons maybe someone else can fill us in.

By: Scott Wells

Scott Wells — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:54:02 +0000

I think this may be true of the respective service committees, but I doubt that conveys to the populations.

By: Hafidha Sofia

Hafidha Sofia — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:20:20 +0000

Based on the stories of Unitarians and Universalists that I’ve heard, I’ve gotten the impression that the Unitarians were bougie (sending money over there, and the Universalists were more physically integrated in working class spheres (even if they had financial privilege themselves). I have no idea if this impression is reality-based or not.