Don’t know the church you mention — I only visit Silver Spring, live in the District — but Gifford’s is back in business with locations all over the place plus pints for sale at local shops. Spectacular ice cream, that.

Don’t you want to come back now?

My dad worked for Gifford’s ice cream back in the day.

He also apprenticed at the Pumphery funeral home; apparently Mrs. Pumphery was like Leona – the queen of mean. Hahahaha!

Perhaps you’re familiar with Woodside United Methodist Church on Georgia Avenue? My great-grandmother Katie Holladay turned the first spadeful of soil at the groundbreaking ceremonies for that building. That was our family’s church. I was baptized there, my mother was later baptized there, I was confirmed there, my great-grandmother and grandfather’s funerals were there.

Sorry…I’m rambling. But sometimes I miss the old place. :)

I doubt you would recognize the place.

:sigh:

Um, so how are things in Silver Spring, then? Looks like the place has really expanded. But I’ll bet the remnants of the actual spring that the city is named for is pretty much no more. I’ll never forget my dad showing me that when I was a kid (I grew up between 16th & Spring Streets, off of Second Avenue).

On the other hand, if this homophobic senator was soliciting sex from another man in a public restroom, it points to a level of self-loathing that is tragic. And as a student of Jesus of Nazareth, I have to wonder if all this public shaming of Senator Craig will bring any restorative justice to the situation? Will he be a better person for it? Will we a better society for it? On those last questions I suspect that the answer will be “no”.

Jamie, you really think Craig was looking for affection? This is lust pure and simple, just as he lusted for power as a politican.

If he came-out and admitted to being gay (and I’m not a 100%) that’s the case here anyways… Craig a guy out of control satisfying lusts. I’m certain if he cared much who was on the other side of that stall as long as Craig would leave satisfied.

This isn’t much of a gay issue at all. It’s a question of lust and power, and if the freedom we’ve lost having cops set up stings in bathrooms is outweighed by the gains in discouraging folks like Craig; and in this case removing him from public life.

It’s Liberal’s seizing on an opportunity to humiliate an opponent and they don’t think out the consequences much for Gays.

This is after spending years rallying against anything that even remotlely could be viewed as gay rights. It has been well documented that many people who are the most vocally anti-gay are in fact most likely to have hidden desires.

What we have in Larry Craig is a man so desperate for same-sex affection that he is willing to suggestively rub a public bathroom stall in hopes of inticing other men like himself to engage in illegal and frankly nasty activities (I mean I do not even like to use public restrooms for their intended purpose).

And instead of embracing a community that would have supported him he choose to use his fear of his own desires and needs as a battleing ram to force down and alienate those very same people. And lets not forget that he made a great deal of money and gained political prestige in the process.

(I do find the whole “he might sleep with men but not be gay” angle in that post a bit of a sophistry — reminds me of Roy Cohn in Angels in America. But nevertheless it’s a fair point that not all LGBTs agree with the agenda of the HRC or PFLAG or the majority of gays and lesbians who identify with their community.)