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	<title>Comments on: Is GA worth it?</title>
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	<description>Scott Wells on the practice of Christian faith</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Harper</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/is-ga-worth-it/#comment-11997</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 03:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year, I would have been complainign along with you, Scott. This year, I attended enough good events that more than paid for GA. Elaine Pagels was *outstanding* -- even better yet, there were maybe 2,000 UU's sitting there in rapt attention, and almost none of them walked out of a lecture on Jesus -- just seeing that was worth the price of admission. Paul Rasor's talk was excellent. The workshop on Electronic Frontiers was excellent. The "Small Group Ministries: Beyond the Basic" workshop was excellent. Rob Hardies's sermon on Universalism on Sunday morning was really good -- and from the talk later on that day, he may have converted some lay leaders to Universalism. Gini Courter's whap-upside-the-head in her report on Monday, telling us to get some good manners and welcome newcomers into our congregations, was a well-done bit of oratory. Chris Walton, at the bloggers meet-up, was downright prophetic in his calls for better use of blogs and other technology. And I got to meet up with some cherished friends and colleagues who now live far away.

On the other hand, Professional Days was an embarrassment. I attended two-waste-of-time workshops, and skipped out of the keynote (just didn't want to listen to someone telling me how bad I am).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year, I would have been complainign along with you, Scott. This year, I attended enough good events that more than paid for GA. Elaine Pagels was <em>outstanding</em> &#8212; even better yet, there were maybe 2,000 UU&#8217;s sitting there in rapt attention, and almost none of them walked out of a lecture on Jesus &#8212; just seeing that was worth the price of admission. Paul Rasor&#8217;s talk was excellent. The workshop on Electronic Frontiers was excellent. The &#8220;Small Group Ministries: Beyond the Basic&#8221; workshop was excellent. Rob Hardies&#8217;s sermon on Universalism on Sunday morning was really good &#8212; and from the talk later on that day, he may have converted some lay leaders to Universalism. Gini Courter&#8217;s whap-upside-the-head in her report on Monday, telling us to get some good manners and welcome newcomers into our congregations, was a well-done bit of oratory. Chris Walton, at the bloggers meet-up, was downright prophetic in his calls for better use of blogs and other technology. And I got to meet up with some cherished friends and colleagues who now live far away.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Professional Days was an embarrassment. I attended two-waste-of-time workshops, and skipped out of the keynote (just didn&#8217;t want to listen to someone telling me how bad I am).</p>
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		<title>By: James Field</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/is-ga-worth-it/#comment-11923</link>
		<dc:creator>James Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say that my local District Assembly compares well to the General Assembly, just on a smaller scale. As someone who has gone from CLF to a small lay fellowship, I'm not sure you can understand exactly the impact on our members to go to GA. Our folks won't go until they can drive to Portland in two years, I suspect I will only go to St. Louis if I go to professional days.

The workshops I went to in Fort Worth were all excellent. Unfortunately, I fould that most of the workshops that I most wanted to attend were scheduled against each other. I tried to attend a balance o fsessions on social justice (I attended one session on stopping torture),  theology (I atttended the process theology network session but missed Paul Rasor and the session on James Luther Adams), and more practical issues (most DRE oriented workshops on incuding families and lifespan faith development).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that my local District Assembly compares well to the General Assembly, just on a smaller scale. As someone who has gone from CLF to a small lay fellowship, I&#8217;m not sure you can understand exactly the impact on our members to go to GA. Our folks won&#8217;t go until they can drive to Portland in two years, I suspect I will only go to St. Louis if I go to professional days.</p>
<p>The workshops I went to in Fort Worth were all excellent. Unfortunately, I fould that most of the workshops that I most wanted to attend were scheduled against each other. I tried to attend a balance o fsessions on social justice (I attended one session on stopping torture),  theology (I atttended the process theology network session but missed Paul Rasor and the session on James Luther Adams), and more practical issues (most DRE oriented workshops on incuding families and lifespan faith development).</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Murrain</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/is-ga-worth-it/#comment-11879</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Murrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to go to GA this year (had to ditch out at the last minute) and I was cobbling together $ via frequent flyer miles, sharing a room, etc. It was supposed to be my first GA - so I don't have a context to compare it to. But it is really expensive, and many denominations have once every other year gatherings, and that, combined with the regional gatherings might be a better bet. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to go to GA this year (had to ditch out at the last minute) and I was cobbling together $ via frequent flyer miles, sharing a room, etc. It was supposed to be my first GA - so I don&#8217;t have a context to compare it to. But it is really expensive, and many denominations have once every other year gatherings, and that, combined with the regional gatherings might be a better bet. </p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/is-ga-worth-it/#comment-11878</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-- I did not go to GA this year.  The cost would be too much (airfare, meals, registration, hotel).  Plus, as a bi-vocational minister, I would need to use up precious vacation time from my secular job.  In the past I've gone to the recent GA's in Salt Lake City, Cleveland, and Boston.  I got to go to Salt Lake and Boston, only because the UU entities I worked for subsidized the cost.  Note that they did not pay for the whole cost of attendance.  The District I worked for only paid for hotel and airfare.  The church I worked for only paid the airfare.  Both expected me to attend as part of my duties to each entity.

I do miss the professional networking and friendships that take place at GA.  But as a whole the cost is not often worth the benefit.  The business sessions are not very substantive, and most of the energy flows around the resolution process.  Substantive decisions about ministeiral credentialing, church planting, extension programs, and budget are made at the UUA headquarters between GA's.  With regards to the vaunted resolution process, I see many of the GA resolutions as pointless, toothless, and too distanced from congregational life.  I've come to think that we make many resolutions, because we like the righteous sound of our own voices.  We speak every year, regardless of the level of passion behind each of the resolutions.  As for the workshops, they are often a mixed bag.  Sometimes they are quite good, and other times they seem stale.  And around social justice issues, many GA programs are stuck in the 1960's before I was even born.

So I am also glad I saved my limited income and vacation time and stayed home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211; I did not go to GA this year.  The cost would be too much (airfare, meals, registration, hotel).  Plus, as a bi-vocational minister, I would need to use up precious vacation time from my secular job.  In the past I&#8217;ve gone to the recent GA&#8217;s in Salt Lake City, Cleveland, and Boston.  I got to go to Salt Lake and Boston, only because the UU entities I worked for subsidized the cost.  Note that they did not pay for the whole cost of attendance.  The District I worked for only paid for hotel and airfare.  The church I worked for only paid the airfare.  Both expected me to attend as part of my duties to each entity.</p>
<p>I do miss the professional networking and friendships that take place at GA.  But as a whole the cost is not often worth the benefit.  The business sessions are not very substantive, and most of the energy flows around the resolution process.  Substantive decisions about ministeiral credentialing, church planting, extension programs, and budget are made at the UUA headquarters between GA&#8217;s.  With regards to the vaunted resolution process, I see many of the GA resolutions as pointless, toothless, and too distanced from congregational life.  I&#8217;ve come to think that we make many resolutions, because we like the righteous sound of our own voices.  We speak every year, regardless of the level of passion behind each of the resolutions.  As for the workshops, they are often a mixed bag.  Sometimes they are quite good, and other times they seem stale.  And around social justice issues, many GA programs are stuck in the 1960&#8217;s before I was even born.</p>
<p>So I am also glad I saved my limited income and vacation time and stayed home.</p>
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		<title>By: John Simcox</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/is-ga-worth-it/#comment-11877</link>
		<dc:creator>John Simcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  The payoff is often below expectation.  I attended GA last year, and given the expense and herculean effort, I wouldn't consider trying to do it every year.  Some of us might prefer to save our time and money for smaller UU or universalist gatherings that could turn out to be more meaningful.

                                                          John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  The payoff is often below expectation.  I attended GA last year, and given the expense and herculean effort, I wouldn&#8217;t consider trying to do it every year.  Some of us might prefer to save our time and money for smaller UU or universalist gatherings that could turn out to be more meaningful.</p>
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		<title>By: joseph santos-lyons</title>
		<link>http://boyinthebands.com/archives/is-ga-worth-it/#comment-11876</link>
		<dc:creator>joseph santos-lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent point, and perhaps GA every other year or 3rd year would make it much more meaningful and cost worthy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent point, and perhaps GA every other year or 3rd year would make it much more meaningful and cost worthy</p>
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